When some prognosticators raised the possibility of the Oakland Raiders drafting a quarterback with the third overall pick in the 2013 draft, some observers brushed it off. With the news about Carson Palmer’s contract situation, it could very well come to fruition.
According to ESPN’s Adam Schefter, Palmer is not expected to restructure his contract, which would presumably lead to his release.
Interesting: now “highly unlikely” Carson Palmer will be willing to restructure his contract meaning OAK pays him $13 million or cuts him.
— Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) March 25, 2013
If Palmer is released, it leaves Oakland with Terrelle Pryor as the main option at QB, but many believe if the Palmer release happens the Raiders will think long and hard about a quarterback even though they need help on the defensive side of the ball.
Tags: 2013 NFL draft, Carson Palmer
Posted in Inside the Bills
Though there are bigger headlines concerning the NFL right now, we dive into your Bills and draft related questions from AskChris@bills.nfl.net here on Fan Friday.
1 – Chris
Do you think it’s possible that the Bills might go after Carson Palmer? It has been said that he has asked for a trade and will consider retirement if the team does not meet his wishes. Would Buffalo possibly show interest in acquiring him? With Fitz penciled in as starter as of right now I BILLieve he would be a great asset to the Bills organization, especially with the relationship that Fitz and Palmer share. If Buffalo decided not to pursue him are there any other veteran QBs out there that Buffalo might be interested in? With the #3 pick overall I just don’t see a QB at that spot being drafted when our D is the real soft spot, but there is no question we need a long term answer at our QB position and with Palmer being a former #1 pick he could be our guy. Love your blog thanks for keeping us Bills fans constantly informed.
CB: I’d be surprised if the Bills engaged in trade talks for Carson Palmer. It just doesn’t fit the Buddy Nix model of building a team, which is largely done through the draft. Nix and Chan Gailey are taking a methodical approach to building this team the right way. I don’t see Palmer being a part of that.
The only other free agent QB I thought made sense for them in a backup capacity to Fitz was Tyler Thigpen, who worked with Chan Gailey in Kansas City in 2008 and started games for the Chiefs. The two worked pretty well together despite a lack of talent around Thigpen at the time. Thigpen’s availability will ultimately be determined by what everyone is waiting for at the league level.
As for the pick at 3, I believe quarterback is a genuine consideration. The task for the Bills brass now is determining whether or not they believe one of the top quarterback prospects is truly a franchise QB. If so they’ll take one at 3, be it Cam Newton or Blaine Gabbert. I don’t believe anyone else falls into the discussion this year.
Otherwise it will be defensive line. Thanks for the kind words.
2 - Hi Chris,
I’ve seen Cam Newton, Mallett, and others, but I just recently watched video on Colin Kaepernick and I’m REALLY impressed. How is he not getting as much talk as all the others? What do you think about him? If you have a chance, watch his very first start against Boise St., the #3 ranked defense. Also hear that he light it up at the Manning QB camp.
CB: The reason Kaepernick is not getting as much consideration is because he’s considered more of a developmental project in terms of molding him into a pro QB. Kaepernick rushed for over 4,000 yards in Nevada’s Pistol offense. Chan Gailey ran a version of the pistol offense in Kansas City when he had Tyler Thigpen scrambling around.
Kaepernick has an NFL arm and obviously mobility, and he’s insisted to me that he had progressions in his offensive scheme at Nevada, but I don’t know if NFL talent evaluators are buying it. They feel there’s a longer learning curve there with him than some of the others in this class that come from spread offenses (Newton, Gabbert) and I think part of it has to do with his throwing mechanics. He does have a long wind up, but the Bills have said throwing mechanics do not carry a lot of weight with them in comparison to throwing it to the right spot at the right time and getting it there with accuracy.
3 – Chris,
I noticed One Bills Dr. added quite a few O-linemen during the later half of the season, including Kraig Urbik 6’5″ 323lbs, Chad Rinehart 6’5″ 307lbs, Colin Brown, 6’7″ 335lbs, Erik Pears, 6’8″ 305lbs and Mansfield Wrotto, 6’3″ 320lbs. (Plus we already have Cordaro Howard and Hangartner).
If it comes to pass that Eric Wood gets moved to center during off season OTAs and training camp, who do you think has the best chance of becoming the starter at right Guard for the Bills? The Bills played so many different combinations to finish out the year I never got a good feel for who seemed to be the best right Guard candidate.
P.S. As a follow up, which of these players could be in the mix for right Tackle?
CB: The right guard in that scenario would be Kraig Urbik, and here’s why. Buddy Nix upon claiming Urbik off waivers stated that on their draft board in 2009, their three best guards were Eric Wood, Andy Levitre and Kraig Urbik. With a big smile Nix said, “Now we’ve got all three.”
So if Wood moves to center he’ll be flanked by Levitre and Urbik in my opinion, unless Urbik’s play drops off dramatically this year and I don’t see any reason why it would.
As for right tackle the odds on favorite there is Erik Pears. He outperformed Mansfield Wrotto earning playing time at the end of the season, and is a former two-year starter for the Broncos at tackle. With Wrotto expected to play more on the interior and compete for a guard spot, Pears has less competition barring the addition of a draft choice.
4 - Hey Chris,
I was wondering with coach Gailey being able to work with the South QBs and also him being a offensive guy would the Bills conseder getting a quaterback like Ponder or Dalton. Ponder might have improved his draft stock to a late second round but Dalton might be there in the 3rd. Just wondering if they would take a quaterback.
Thanks for the time,
CB: I think the Bills taking a QB at third overall is a distinct possibility provided they believe one of the top candidates is a franchise QB. If not then your scenario is more likely with a third round prospect a possibility. Ponder performed well at the Senior Bowl (MVP) and did well at the combine both on the field and in interviews from what I’ve been told. So he might not be there in the third. Some even believe Seattle is considering him at 25th overall.
5 - Hi Chris,
I like you believe that the Bills need Fairley and I think he would help this defense out tremendously, do you see the Bills just making a deal if Carolina is willing to move 2 spots that way there is no anticipation whether the team or 2 before us is going to grab him. Because over the last few draft classes I really believe that they should have made some better picks or at least tried to jump up in the draft.
Thanks for your time
CB: I do like Fairley’s game a lot, but I do believe Marcell Dareus is right there with him and just as good a pick. The Bills seem to believe Da’Quan Bowers is a multiple defense fit, but I don’t think he’s as versatile as those two, despite being a better pass rusher.
All that being said I’d be surprised if Buffalo moves up from pick 3. Sure there is the danger of missing out on somebody, but if a defensive lineman is what they’re after, there’s more than enough to choose from at three because even if two of the aforementioned players go first and second, there’s still one there to take. Also remember that Buddy Nix has said time and again he’s not a guy that likes to jump around the draft board. He likes to sit where he is and make his picks.
Tags: 2011 NFL draft, Andy Dalton, Buddy Nix, Carson Palmer, Chan Gailey, Christian Ponder, Colin Kaepernick, Da'Quan Bowers, Fan Friday, Marcell Dareus, Nick Fairley
Posted in Inside the Bills
Ryan Fitzpatrick and Carson Palmer are pretty tight from the two seasons they spent together in Cincinnati (2007-2008). And the two have maintained their friendship, which is why they’ve been in contact a few times already this week leading up to Sunday’s game.
“I still talk to Ryan, still been sending him texts, and he’s been sending them back and forth,” said Palmer. “I’m very close to Ryan. I respect him as a player, as a professional. They may not have won a bunch of games so far, but he’s been playing well. They’ve been moving the ball and just haven’t been able to find ways to win games.”
“Yeah, just joking texts back and forth and stuff,” Fitzpatrick confirmed. “We’ve talked about the season and how it’s been going and what we’re going to get to eat and all that stuff.”
When asked what they joke about specifically Fitz said rarely has anything to do with football.
“No, we wouldn’t joke about stats, but facial hair, his little brother. Jordan (Palmer) comes up a lot. He’s a nice target, he’s an easy target, just different things.”
Jordan Palmer is the Bengals backup QB to his older brother Carson. The elder Palmer’s nickname for Fitzpatrick is not Fitz as it is in Buffalo. His nickname for him is ‘Ryno.’
Tags: Carson Palmer, Ryan Fitzpatrick
Posted in Inside the Bills