The quarterback class in the 2010 has been described as “thin” by many so called draft experts. ESPN draft analyst Todd McShay took that characterization a step further when asked what could be available in round two after Sam Bradford and Jimmy Clausen are off the board.
“First of all I have Bradford rated fifth overall and I have Clausen rated 36th on my board, which I understand is lower than most,” said McShay. “Even if you consider him a first rounder I don’t have another quarterback with a second round grade in this class. They’re the only two players, Bradford and Clausen, that I have with grades in the first two rounds.”
“I think Colt McCoy, as much as I love him and his competitiveness, I think he’s overrated. I think he’s going to have a big, big shock to the system when he gets to the next level. I don’t think Tebow is worth a second-round pick. I don’t think (Tony) Pike or anyone else in this class is worth a second-round pick.”
Now that’s only one analyst’s opinion, but “thin” has been used by more than one draft analyst when describing the QB class. That doesn’t mean there isn’t good value in rounds 3 or 4, but when it comes to what the Bills might do in rounds one and two, quarterback is looking less and less like it will be in the cards, unless Clausen is still on the board at nine.
McShay went on to say that in rounds one and two you’re aim is to draft players that can start for you right away or at some point in their rookie season. That’s primarily why he doesn’t have Tebow as a worthwhile choice in the first two rounds. He believes he needs time to develop and would be a better value in rounds 3 or 4.
Tags: 2010 NFL Draft, Colt McCoy, Jimmy Clausen, Sam Bradford, Tim Tebow, Tony Pike
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Our combine coverage is less than a week away. Draft process heating up. Your questions at AskChris@bills.nfl.net. Here is this week’s edition.
1 – Chris,
Reports are the Bills are in the market for a new franchise quarterback. I was curious if the management would look into a QB like Tony Pike out of Cincinnati. I seen a majority of the games he played in this year. Under Brian Kelly and New UB Coach Jeff Quinn, Pike managed many types of offense. Not just the spread offense. I am just curious where he would rank in a draft board.
CB: You’re right he has played in more than the spread, though it has mostly been spread for him. The concerns with Pike are durability and his competitive nature. He’s rail thin at 6’6” and 210 pounds so he’ll have to add some bulk, but I think he throws a nice ball.
There are some that think Pike is too laid back, but others maintain that he’s just a cool-headed signal caller. I suppose everyone has their own interpretation.
He has had some injury issues, but returned pretty quickly from a broken non-throwing arm in his final collegiate season. The so called experts have him no higher than the 3rd round.
2 – When it comes to the QB position I think Clausen is the only QB in the draft who might make it in the NFL, seriously. Bradford looks way too vulnerable to injury, Tebow has bad mechanics, no pro offense experience, and questionable vision, Pike – no body, mediocre arm, Hiller? Lefevour? McCoy – no arm strength, very spread offense oriented, or Snead coming off a pretty mediocre year, lots of interceptions, etc.?. A trade? For whom: Vick? Chris Redman? Russell? Thigpen? Rosenfels? Who’s out there who’d be worth a trade? It looks pretty bleak from here, thoughts?
CB: I do agree that filling the quarterback position won’t be easy, especially with what I believe is a far more restrictive free agent process. That’s why I think there’s a halfway decent chance Gailey has Trent Edwards as part of the competition at quarterback for 2010. I do believe in some way, shape or form they will add another QB to the mix on this roster to also compete for the starting job.
3 – Hello Chris,
Several draft sites have this pick as conditional.
The rumor when the trade was made was that it was a 6th rnd choice.
However, can you determine in view of Peters making the pro Bowl whether that pick could, as conditional, be higher than the 6th rnd?
CB: From what I have been told it’s a straight 6th, no conditions. So all together the Bills have nine picks this year, with that extra 6th and an extra 7th from the Ko Simpson trade.
4 – With the defensive scheme still up in the air, can you imagine a draft scenario in which the Bills take Rolando McClain with their pick?
CB: I don’t see them taking McClain unless there’s a run on OTs and one of their considerations is not there at 9 and both of the top QBs are also off the board. I like McClain, but you can argue that the Bills already have 2 starting ILBs in Mitchell and Poz.
5 – Hi Chris, Now that Brad Butler is retiring, do you see the Bills having a heavy draft emphasis on the offensive line? Also, with Julius Peppers probably leaving the Panthers, do you see the Bills making an effort to sign him? With the switch to the 3-4, having a marquee player of Peppers level would have a major impact. Your thoughts.
Tony, Daytona Beach
CB: I don’t think they have any choice. The only tackles on the roster under contract with playing experience are Demetrius Bell, Jamon Meredith and Kirk Chambers. They absolutely need to re-fortify the position with top flight talent. If they can’t find any in free agency, you can make the argument that they need to draft two offensive tackles, with one ready to start right away and that likely means with your first pick.
As for Peppers I think he’s a pipe dream. Yes, he wants to play in a 3-4, but he’s also going to be looking for upwards of $12-15M per season on a long term deal after playing last season at $16M and change.
Tags: 2010 NFL Draft, Brad Butler, Chan Gailey, Dan LeFevour, Fan Friday, Jason Peters, Jimmy Clausen, Julius Peppers, Michael Vick, Rolando McClain, Tim Tebow, Tony Pike, Trent Edwards, Tyler Thigpen
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Well the coaching staff is just about put together. Time for your questions. Remember email AskChris@bills.nfl.net.
1 – Chris,
At WR is T.O. gonna be a Bill for his last two seasons and are we gonna utilize Parrish more and Evans, my boy, when will he be the talent he was suppose to be (I mean putting up the numbers to be elite NFL WR)
Also O-line I think this is our #1 concern we didn’t look very impressive do you think the 9th pick will go to o-line and if so who?
CB: I am not anticipating that Owens will be back in 2010, but you never say never. I just get the sense from Owens that he wants to play for a contender with a proven QB. Right now the Bills don’t have an entrenched signal caller. Parrish I believe has a chance to do more under a coach like Gailey, who will take advantage of the things he does well which is gain separation, especially when put in motion.
If I’m Roscoe I’m encouraged with Gailey as the offensive play caller. Lee Evans is another skill position player that should be excited. Gailey unlike his predecessors has a history of finding ways to get his top playmakers the ball no matter what the coverage or defensive look is.
As for the offensive line I agree it’s one of the top concerns. A capable nose tackle is right there too however, with the move to the 3-4 defensive alignment. At ninth overall however, I think the value is at offensive tackle. I think Anthony Davis and Bryan Bulaga are worthwhile options. Okung figures to be off the board by then.
What’s your thought on the LT prospects vs. defense prospects for the Bills 1st rd pick?
CB: I think the talent at DT is better at the top of the draft, but the Bills won’t get a whiff of Ndamakong Suh or Gerald McCoy. So with that in mind the better value after them is at OT. Russell Okung, Anthony Davis and Bryan Bulaga to me all represent good value at 9.
3 – Hi Chris
Like a lot of Bills fans I have been a little bit disappointed with Maybin’s production in his rookie year, but I’ve had a little look into it and he is pretty young for a rookie (almost 2 years younger than orakpo) so he could quite easily develop into a big player, especially considering a lot of NFL pass rushers don’t develop until later in their career. What do you think Maybin’s chances are of developing into a decent NFL pass rusher given time?
from the land of the UK
CB: I think his chances are much improved now that he’s in a defensive system (3-4) that is better suited to his body type and talents. Now he’ll be rushing against backs and tight ends a lot more than defensive ends. It affords him better pass rushing matchups. The 3-4 is also more unpredictable for offenses in terms of where the pressure is coming from. So that too will help his production. You’re right, the guy is 21. He still hasn’t fully filled out his frame yet. I have faith that he’ll be productive in the near future.
4 – Hey Chris,
Just wondering what your thoughts were on Pike from Cincinnati? Is he someone that could be looked upon as the future? If so, can he start right away, even with a good O-Line? If we draft a QB this year, he most certainly will be looked as the future, correct?
St. John’s, Canada
CB: I have an affinity for Pike’s game. I like the way the ball snaps out of his hand. I think he has good physical tools, but he needs to bulk up (6’6” 212) or he’s going to be out of the lineup a lot. He was very productive at Cincinnati, looked cool under pressure in some comeback efforts. I see him as a prospect that needs to watch and learn for a year or two, but could be a productive starter in a couple of years time. Probably a third rounder.
5 – Hey Chris,
I know you’ve been voicing your hope that the Bills get a star offensive or defensive lineman with their first pick, and you’ve stated that you think the team needs a top-flight offensive tackle. I’m wondering how you think the rest of the line shakes out if that happens.
Thanks and Go Bills!
CB: If the Bills do draft an offensive tackle with the first pick, I anticipate that player ending up as the starting left tackle. We’ve seen the impact young offensive tackles can make in their first year the past couple of seasons in the NFL (see: Jake Long, Michael Oher). I think there are prospects of similar caliber this year as mentioned above.
I think that just makes Demetrius Bell a swing tackle provided Butler makes a successful return from his ACL injury. Otherwise let Bell and Butler battle it out on the right side. If Wood is not ready for the start of the season hopefully Buffalo has re-signed Richie Incognito to start at right guard. Everything else stays the same.
Tags: Aaron Maybin, Anthony Davis, Bryan Bulaga, Demetrius Bell, Fan Friday, Gerald McCoy, Lee Evans, Ndamakong Suh, Roscoe Parrish, Russell Okung, Terrell Owens, Tony Pike
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Hard to believe January has come and gone, but we’re less than a month away from the NFL Combine. Let’s get to your questions. Remember you can email your questions to me at AskChris@bills.nfl.net.
1. Do you have access to challenge flag stats? Specifically I’m looking to find out how many challenges Dick Jauron lost this past season.
Leif M. Nelson
CB: From what I’ve been able to gather from the NFL database the Bills challenged just three plays all season in 2009, and all three were overturned. So Jauron was 3-for-3. Buffalo had the fewest challenges in the NFL last season. The Packers had the most challenges with 16. Only 11 teams in the league had 10 or more challenges 2009.
2. I was wondering why the Bills never put Maybin at linebacker? He has great speed and good size to play the position. Washington took Orakpo and made him a very productive player at LB and I believe Buffalo should have done the same with Maybin. I know with new coaches coming that things will change. Do you see them looking to make Maybin a LB? My other thought is I would love to see the Bills move Spencer Johnson to full time DE. I think he would be great. He has done a good job at DT but is a little small to play it all the time. He is very quick and would also help make the defensive line get a little bigger and more solid. Your thoughts please.
CB: I think if the Bills do in fact employ a 3-4 defensive scheme then Maybin will likely be transitioned to outside linebacker because he won’t be a fit as a five-technique DE. Spencer Johnson is perfect fit as a five-technique DE and if they go to the 3-4 you’d get your wish there too. Johnson would move to end. We’ll see how it all plays out when the new defensive coordinator is hired.
3. I believe Dan LeFevour out of CMU is the second coming of Kelly if I ever saw one !! He’s definitely a winner, has played in the elements, and look at the guys stats WOW !! The only college Q.B. to throw for 12000 yards and run for 2500 that’s pretty impressive. Just thought I would throw my two cents in after I saw Tony Pike’s name on one of the Buffalo blogs in a mock draft. After the comeback win in their bowl game too when he started out slow, what do you think about him ??
Mr. T Ft. Myers Fla.
CB: LeFevour broke most of Graham Harrell’s records and Harrell could not cut it in the CFL. He’s a coach at Oklahoma St. now. The guy that is the all time leader in total offense is a former Hawaii QB named Timmy Chang. Also did not make it in the NFL. I’m not saying that LeFevour can’t be a successful NFL player. I’m just saying you can’t be blinded by stats and assume the guy will do it at the top level. Most “experts” consider him a 4th rounder.
As for Pike I think he’s a more promising prospect with better tools. He has a better arm than LeFevour by most accounts. He has to add bulk to his frame because he is rail thin at 6’6″ 212 pounds. He’ll get broken in half in the NFL. There are questions about his passion for the game and he’s been labeled a laid back personality. I don’t know if that fits in Buffalo. He’s been called more of a third round pick.
Would the Bills have any interest in prying David Carr from the New York Giants? I think he would be better than anyone we got and a perfect stop gap until we find our franchise QB. Also, what are the options of the Bills trading Lynch or Evans for draft picks? I really feel bad for Evans because the guy hasn’t had a quality QB his entire career here.
CB: The Bills would not have to do any prying. Carr is going to be an unrestricted free agent in March. Personally I’m not a big fan. It’s hard to believe that his performance will be dramatically better than it has been in the past. I know Chan Gailey has proven over the years that he can do more with less, but I’d rather have Trent Edwards than David Carr, provided Edwards returns to more of his 2007 or 2008 form.
As for trading Lynch and Evans, I would say unequivocally no on Evans. Lynch is a bit tougher to figure with the new regime in place. Both Buddy Nix and Chan Gailey mentioned character and Lynch though he’s a gamer on the field has had some off field issues. Whether that is an issue for the Bills new decisions makers remains to be seen.
5. Hey Chris,
I was wondering what you thought about the chances we keep Incognito next yr. From what I saw of him the guy is a football player very physical and tough which is what we were going for when we drafted Eric Wood last yr. Now that we have 2 of the same types of guys at one postion do you maybe see the Bills moving Eric to be the starting center? After all I think that would give us 3 really mean guys in the interior that could give all the big nose tackles we face every year fits. Just wondering if you had any idea on what was going to happen cuase id hate to see a guy as promising as Incognito not playing or even worse get cut from the roster.
Garrett from Pa.
CB: I believe Incognito will be a priority for the team. I thought he fared pretty well for having to come in on the fly and learn the blocking scheme. He’s got the right attitude for playing in this town.
More important is due to the uncertain timetable as to when exactly Eric Wood is going to be back Incognito represents valuable insurance in the event that Wood’s recovery is lengthy.
I should also mention that Incognito is capable of playing center as well and could be a depth option in the pivot behind Geoff Hangartner.
Tags: Aaron Maybin, challenges, Dan LeFevour, Fan Friday, Richie Incognito, Spencer Johnson, Tony Pike
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